I'm not gonna upgrade for a long time I was just wondering since Minecraft is a lot of the times more CPU Intensive than GPU intensive would that many more cores help your FPS in Minecraft. 12 Cores on 3900x. Thanks in advance The Ryzen product names are relatively simple. 59. Reply reply. And the Mac is 3. Join. In general if you do need the memory channels the difference those bring is massively bigger than zen3 improvements or even core count. 8-channel DDR4 memory. ), and standard gaming as third priority Ok, so I was able to OC my 1950x to a stable 3. However, if you really dig into the results, there are really two primary tasks where Ryzen blows away Intel that is causing the higher overall scores: exporting and building smart previews. Both the 3960X and 3970X look to have high base/boost clocks, actually very similar to Ryzen 7/9 top tier. Hence the threadripper build. And although it games well, buying a 4 thousand dollar cpu for gaming AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX Content Creation Preview. Even the next Ryzen 5 is going to be faster in most applications than today's Ryzen 9, except for raw MT performance perhaps. 8 ghz and had higher IPC than Ryzen 3000. 7: 64: 64: Dual DDR4-3200: 105W: Threadripper over Ryzen 9 will have more features that are workstation related so quadchannel memory over dualchannel, more PCI-E lanes and more common ECC support. Threadripper having 4 lanes of ram has twice the memory bandwidth to play with and a lot more pci lanes for high data rate computer peripherals. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I own both, 3900x is the way to go. So the answer depends on how memory intensive the tasks are. And whatever CPU launches in a year or two is going to be faster than the fastest that's available today. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon… AMD Ryzen 9 3950X will be available for sale starting November 25. If going Intel we would get the i9 13900k which just released with 24 cores for $620 on Newegg. 0 Patch A already supports the new generation CPU. When you're using a CPU like that, most of the time, you'd be doing a render in the background, while doing something else in the foreground. I want to be able to have access to those future chips without wasting time and money replacing everything. It won't be terrible, but don't expect it to run games all that well. Otherwise, just buy regular Threadripper" The problem is that Threadripper 5000 non-Pro was cancelled due to a lack of competition from Intel - in other words, AMD abandoned TR40, screwing over customers despite telling them that the jump from X399-->TR40 was to support future CPU generations. 2970wx is 24 cores vs. It might be time to run multiple benchmarks side by side, as it seems almost none of them really scale 1:1 with the new core count. C) If you turn off SMT (no hyperthreads) then the Cinebench R20 is just over 10000. Being an MCM most likely, Ryzen Master does offer different memory access modes and a compatibility mode for older games and applications, but this will require more extensive testing. 7M subscribers in the Amd community. I know that TR has more RAM slots, quad channel, ECC support and extra PCIe lanes but is there anything else that stands out between the two chips. Threadripper 3970X 32core vs Ryzen 7 3800x 8 core. 95; Threadripper 3990X Specifications and Pricing. 6. Mainstream Ryzen can be likewise limited to one DIMM per channel, launch a couple months later, and be limited to B650 like features. The AMD EPYC™ 7763 and AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper 3990X are both powerful processors that can be used for ML inference. Threadripper just uses 8cores too and deactivates in gaming mode the other 8. If gaming is all you're doing, then it's a bad idea. The only reason to go Threadripper would be if you are 3D rendering from Blender or Cinema 4D. It will probably be, but that's not the purpose of the Threadripper. 4 on a Dell Precision 7810 bi-Xeon a short while ago with Quadro boards and the fun of passing them to Yeah thought so too. Like Zen3, for example. a) either drop heavily prices for 7600X (200$) and 7700X (299$) b) or quickly release a 7600X refresh with 8/16 cores and 7700X with 10/20 cores and keep the prices at the same level. 59 votes, 11 comments. The Ryzen 9 can run 128gb ram The first then has less instructions per clock. PCIe Gen 4. This is supposed to represent where these products are positioned in the market, with Ryzen 3 being very low end and inexpensive and Ryzen 9 being very high end, high performance, and expensive. Question about AMD Threadripper Support / Ryzen Series 9. I’m doing a full overhaul of a old intel build of mine and I’m stuck in a bit of a pickle. The Threadripper 3990X is better by far. Of course, we are cash-strapped, so we are trying to make the best of it. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen3, RDNA3, EPYC… Now AMD will release ThreadRipper, and if this is soldered, what will the argument be? Let's face it, Intel is just trying to make a penny, nothing more, nothing less. If you filter out gaming, the answer seems: "not so much" and the R9 wins. That said, if they won't solder it, they could at least use decent TIM and have a decent adhesive that won't bring the temperatures 20° above what they should be At 3. ago. I think AMD should design a middle platform that connects two desktop IO dies and has one DIMM per channel and, critically, launches BEFORE mainstream Ryzen and gets many generations of support. If you want me to care about Threadripper, show me that you are going to support it going forward, with releases for every new Zen CPU iteration. The PCI-E lanes give you lots of options to have more plotting drives, sata add-on cards, etc. Third, the 2950X is on a dead platform. The 5950X is far more powerful than the 2950X (Zen 3 vs Zen+). Threadripper 3960x. 6-4. One of them already built an R7 1700 PC at my advisement and is loving it (we spent some time picking out the parts and overclocking). 9 with 3400 cl16 quad channel RAM on my 1950x with Asrock TaiChi board. 5600X for single Core Performance. 6M subscribers in the Amd community. 8 GHz Upto 4. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon…. It's an old Zen chip with higher latency than consumer Zen CPUs, you'd be better Right now she uses an intel i7 6600k where her data may take 4-8 hours to complete. 24-core and 32-core 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Threadripper models will be available for sale starting November 25 as well. Mounted on a Threadripper Pro 7975WX, at stock TDP, the max temp delta has improved by about 1. The Ryzen 16-core 3950x and new Threadripper 24-core 3960x should be out next month. 2. I'd ordinarily say, "If you need Threadripper Pro, you can pay the 10% premium for an OEM prebuilt. This is a processor that aim complex operations and server management. 72. AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro Series Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5965WX Desktop Processor 24 cores 48 Threads 150 MB Cache 3. 286v. Games don't use 32 threads. That being said, the 3900x has the second highest passmark score at 31,829, while the 2950x has a passmark score of 25,548. If you want to have usability just edit off a thread or two in config. In these tasks, the Ryzen 9 3900X is about 80% faster than the Core i9 9900K while the Ryzen 7 3700X/3800X are about 55% faster than the Core i9 9700K. R7 1700 & i7-7700K for 144Hz Gaming at 1440p, 1080p, 4K. While the 1950X has 16c/32t and 32MB cache so you get 50% usage because 32MB / 2MB = 16t out of 32t = 50%. 54 votes, 10 comments. If you round it up, its 8000. 264v. Kinda torn between going Ryzen 7 1700x or 1800x vs going all out Threadripper 1950x. Ryzen. Welcome to r/ultrawidemasterrace, the hub for Ultrawide enthusiasts. 139 Online. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon… otherwise 5950x will smoke it. Then we have the MSI X399 Creator for the 2nd-gen Threadripper 2990WX, 2950X and 2920X. Threadripper sounds truly overkill for your use case. 9 GHz, I was still unstable just past 1. /r/AMD is community run and does not represent AMD in any capacity unless specified. That would've taken a lot of steam out of the Ryzen parts just like the 8700K took a lot of steam right out of Ryzen 1000 parts. Up to 15% IPC improvement + more from higher clock frequencies. I can get about 9500 h/s @3. Go check out r/AMD, its still all sunshine and rainbows over there. Nope! The 3900X will perform much faster than Threadripper. My other option is a Ryzen 9 3900x, which would be cheaper especially after factoring in the motherboard cost, but it's only got 12c/24t. On top of all that, is has a stupendously low tdp, compared to lets say a 14900k which can reach a tdp of 300 watts. 6°C. I'm planning to replace my aging, but still glorious, PC until the end of the year. Talk about Apples vs oranges. And has a high end GPU and RAM on chip. Or check it out in the app stores Ryzen Threadripper 7960x or Ryzen 9950x for animations/rendering Would you recommend me as CPU the Ryzen 9 5900x or Ryzen 7 5800x. 7°C. I was just wondering if a Ryzen 9 3950x or a 3990x would be better for Minecraft Java. 7. Do not even think twice. I thought threadripper was my next move but am unsure with the new Ryzen release. And some does the whole. R7 1800x, 1700 have almost the same gaming performance if clocked they are clocked at the same level. You usually compile the 5 to 6 source files you've changed (decent parallelism, but limited to one-thread per file), and then wait for the single-threaded linker to finish things up. It's still the best CPU for After Effects and it's already out, so no waiting. Even then, the Ryzen 9 worh 16 cores and 32 threads does the job good. Feb 7, 2020 · For testing the Ryzen 9 3950X, 3900X and Ryzen 7 3800X CPUs, the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme was used. I'm playing around at 3. So the 5950X has 16c/32t and 64MB cache which works out to 100% usage by default because 32t * 2MB = 64MB. One thing to note is that more physical cores means more tasks can be handled at the same time. Intel was using it long before new Ryzens. 128MB L3 Cache = 128MB L3 Cache. com. Yes, they both have some differences like HS or GE from AMD or G1/5/7 from Intel, but the main naming scheme is almost identical. For the additional updates, here’s the scoop. AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000X & PRO 7000WX Review Roundup | VideoCardz. Gaming performance, multitasking & workload performance, core and thread count, platform cost & longevity etc. • 3 yr. Between the 5950X and the TR3970X, which CPU should one get for streaming + gaming, AND video editing + rendering? Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen4, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. Since gaming is involved, and many workloads rely on single core performance (and 16 blazing fast ProfTheorie. The AMD Ryzen 9 3950X is almost here! Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen4, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. 9 GHz boost. 3. OS: Windows 10. Which isn’t a good choice. For a video-editing focused system, with high-end simming as secondary use (think Oculus VR with DCS:World, Project Cars 2, etc. Threadripper 100%. The Ryzen 9 3950x is better than those first gen. Now at 3. 9-2°C compared to the Heatkiller IV block. I have most of the other components figured out, but can't decide if I should go with a "consumer" Ryzen 7950x or pay extra for a Threadripper Pro 5955WX (both have 16 cores). Working on a new build mainly used for After Effects and C4D/ Redshift. There are Ryzen 3, 5, 7, and 9 parts. So it has around the same performance as ryzen in games. Nothing beats it. 370 votes, 72 comments. Almost 4x the cores while being 4x the price, and unlike the 10980XE, the CPU actually exists. New process tech: 7 nm Plus (probably not 7 nm+ EUV) 20% increase in transistor density, 10% lower power consumption. So I'm deciding between the 5950X and the 3960X for workstation usage (VFX, 3D, Development). And the AMD CPU alone likely costs more than the entire Mac Studio. 75 GHz at 1. Imagine an 8 core Tiger Lake cpu that could clock up to 4. Ryzen 9 5960x Vs. Ryzen 5 and 7 fall in the middle. Hi guys, I just bought an MSI X570-A PRO with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900x and unfortunately I read afterwards that the motherboard is Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen3, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. ~10% Slower. Ryzen 9 is currently end of line for core counts for (this gen of) AM4, however there are up to 32-cores available for tr4 currently, with supposed 64 coming at the end of year (or at least, announced by then). Doubling the 14900k score at close to the same power usage. Feb 14, 2020 · AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X (AMD Ryzen Threadripper) at Amazon for $3,249. 5 GHz sWRX8 Socket (100-100000446WOF) Or. I'm also thinking about getting a Threadripper for this build (ofc changing the mobo in that case) but for that I'm thinking it would be smarter to wait for the 5000 series threadripper to release. Second, the 2950X is not any cheaper. About the same as the 5950x. 1. 5 / 4. then I looked at the Ryzen 9 7950X 16 core 4. So when would 8 more cores make 5965WX worth all that for UE. Unless your university works require you to do hour long blender rendering sessions, you'll be fine. 3960x isn't even that much better in multicore workloads than 5950x, like 25%? 5950x has about 25% more performance in single core. 150% more cores. My perfect laptop at the moment would be 15-16 inch thin and light with the Ryzen 9 7940hs, 32gb of upgradable ram, an HDR 500 or better screen with good color accuracy 90+% dci-p3, not oled. 12MB L2 Cache < 16MB L2 Cache. Either way I'll be using 64gb of RAM. 5 liters for the entire computer. AMD's problem is 13600K and 13700K and their massive MT performance for a fair price. GRANITE RIDGE MCM MCM CAORUS Options for No dgpu and 32gb ram with 7500 frequency. Yes and no. INTERNET: 120Mbps / 20Mbps poverty internet using a LAN cable. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen4, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. And cut the price in half, at least. These chips will utilize the 12 CCD Zen 4 die and were tested on a motherboard with Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen4, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. Might as well compare a desktop computer with a smartphone. The 3950x (16c/32t) is supposedly going to be coming out in September around $750. Given these figures, which hardly seem to differ, will the new Threadripper perhaps break the pattern of being "worse in gaming"? Clock frequencies: up to 3. Even second one. Gaming its a dead horse. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen3, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. Though nobody can deny that Ryzen is overall better value. Same thing for Threadripper 5975wx - DDR4 3200MHz . Choosing an AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Cooler. I would like to stay as up to date as possible with my build for the next few years. Although it is way more expensive. From Zen1 (Ryzen 2000 series) to Zen3+ (Ryzen 6000 series), please join us in discussing the future of mobile computing. This is just a hypothetical question. In day-to-day development, you rarely do a full compile. I don't have the newer generation - rather the older 2990wx. Join us for a wider point of view. #=====# The goal of this community is to provide a wide variety of information for those considering an AMD laptop. Processing power on the Ryzen 3k-series Ryzen 9 CPU's outpaces the 2k-series Threadripper. 7950X and RTX 4090. ago • Edited 3 yr. We all know that AMD is working on its next-gen Threadripper family which will be branded as the Ryzen Threadripper 7000 CPUs. The cache is split between the 2 CCDs, one of which is basically the 7800X3D, the other one a "normal" 4 or 8 core utilising 32 MB L3 cache, so the performance in Factorio will be the same between 7800-, 7900- and 7950X3D. Most games benefit more from a higher single core clock than the multicore that you're paying for on a Threadripper. With the Threadripper you will have more memory throughput because of the Quad Channel setup. Who knows what will the 3rd gen threadripper performance will be vis-a-vis 3rd gen ryzen with the same core count. T = T = Low Power Desktop. Once you start to get Threadripper-number of threads, the linker becomes the bottleneck. 320% more $$$. Should be able to get away with a lot less then a 5900 really. Opt for Threadripper 3000 and opt for a lower core count (16-24?) to focus on a higher clock speed and try and get the best of both worlds, all while maintaining 128gb RAM? Valuing against the high core $1000+ i7-5960X seems more relatable, as they are both high end HEDT even if threadripper dropped the low core low cost SKUs from the first 2 generations. The price difference between the two should not be a decisive criterion, more the usability and necessity of the 4 cores more and larger cache of the 59000x. EDIT: not to mention that threadripper 3rd gen will surely have number of cores way beyond the ryzen's xmrig will use 100% if you have 2*threads of cache. Workstation advantages for Threadripper over Ryzen 9. Another option would be to go Intel with the i9 9900K. Need to make purchasing decision. 35 v, so I didn't want to go any higher (plus was STILL too hot). 1. A 24 core TR shouldn't cost twice what a 16 core Ryzen does. Hi, I have just changed my cpu to a threadripper because I wanted a boost in my sims calculation. Threadripper 3960x : r/buildapc. 64-core EPYC Milan clocked at 3. You yourself know if you need the memory channels. Video recording devices, nvme ssd drives, gpus etc. They won't help you in all workloads. Threadripper Ryzen 9. . 0 GHz. json. It also has better statistics in other miscellaneous areas which make it the best gaming cpu in the whole wide world. 9M Members. The latest gen threadripper is just based on Zen+. Storage will be 6 WD Red 8TB drives, and 3 WD Purple 2TB or 4TB drives for cameras. AMD's Next-Gen Ryzen Threadripper 7000 'Storm Peak' CPU Shows Up With 96 Zen 4 Cores, 50% More Cores & Threads Vs Threadripper 5000. They barely use 4-6. /r/AMD — For all things Ryzen, Radeon and more. ryzen 5 or better should be just fine, ryzen 7 if you want to be sure, ryzen 9 if you have the budget and just want better. i3/i5/i7/i9 = Ryzen 3/5/7/9. 8 GHz base, up to 4. Plus some process ( nodes ) uses single core more than the whole pack. I can't wait until next year to see if AMD decides to release Zen 4 Threadrippers. The 3900x is nice but i'd take the 2970wx because of the cores, ram & PCIe lanes. 7. Its looking good so far. Dive into discussions about game support, productivity, or share your new Ultrawide setup. Really light virtualization should be nothing for a modern cpu. U from Intel = U from AMD = ULV (Ultra low voltage) laptop CPU. 8 (xevan) on all threads. 8 GHz right now at 1. However, dropping 4 grand on a CPU isn't wise unless if the stuff you're creating is actually making you enough money to justify the cost. 8/23 (1am): It locked up. You are buying an expensive motherboard with no support for Threadripper 3rd or 4th gen. I considering whether or not to buy a Ryzen 9 5950X now or save for a Threadripper later. Hello, We are planning on building a shared rig for machine learning. Going Threadripper is quite a bit more ($3299 for a Threadripper PRO 5975WX on Newegg) so it would need to be a big improvement to justify a cost like that internally. 9Ghz with a Dark Rock Pro TR4 because AIOs for Threadripper are notoriously garbage. Now with the performance reviews of the 5950x it looks like, to me, that it is creeping very close to that of the threadripper and at a significantly reduced price. ) Cinebench R20 scores for my threadripper 3960x ended up being between 13800-13900 consistently (CPU would not get over 60 deg. Temps are currently 76c after 6 minutes of running cpuminer-opt 3. Average temps delta has improved by 9. abrahamlincoln20. 21°C. I'm worried about the future of the 5950X and AM4 Threadripper Pro vs Ryzen 9 7950X RTX 4090. One of my other friends is very interested in building a Threadripper or R7 based PC. My primary uses are content creation and gaming. 5 GHz, $600. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all NVIDIA RTX 3080 + (Ryzen 9 5950X or Threadripper 3970X or something else?) for playing + streaming games, and video editing/rendering (and possibly 3D rendering). AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X is this good for gaming. Very nice. CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x at stock speeds (12 core / 24 threads at 3. I dont think it would be possible to OC this on an air cooler, which means I would probably have to go full custom loop if I did get this and OC it. Memory bandwidth on the 2k is about 50% better on the Threadripper 2k. A or B or zero sales. I have done my share of proxmoxing with 6. Would a basic Ryzen 9 7950xt - 64 Gb RAM - RTX 3090 (or any similar) perform close to what Threadripper 5973wx - 64Gb RAM (or 128Gb) - RTX 3090 (or AMD RX6900) can do, having in mind better speed in Ryzen 9. if you need the memory bandwith, PCIe Lanes or ECC support then threadripper over ryzen. Example: Ryzen 9 9950X, Ryzen 9 9900X… MCM design: Ryzen 9: IOD + 2 CCDs Ryzen 7/5: IOD + 1 CCD Note: The latest Beta version BIOS AGESA1. All of this will be stuffed into the Rosewill 4U rackable chassis. I did a quick test with a vellum sim that I already knew how much time cost me with the ryzen 7 and BUT FOR MY SURPRISE I did not have better results with the threadripper. ZEN5 may solve their problems, but, until then, AMD needs. Otherwise, you'll probably be fine with the 5950X. It will be beneficial in memory-bound scenarios. My main concern is will Ryzen 7 be enough? Posted by u/dayman56 - 284 votes and 104 comments I know that more core helps parallel plotting, but 3900X is much faster and efficient. Ryzen 9 3950X: 16 / 32: 3. New threadripper will appear but that will move away from enthusiast/hpc to full on hpc with a price to match. A community dedicated toward all things AMD mobile. Thanks. Based on threads and cores, the Threadripper is a better option compared to the RYzen but its just more power hungry and older tech. •. The two processors are very similar in terms of their core count, thread count, and clock speed. 70 votes, 16 comments. There's small form factor PCs like this but idk about laptops. Plus, the high core counts of Ryzen 3000 filled a decent amount of the HEDT market that didn't need all the lanes and ram channels. etc. If you include gaming, then the answer flips to The 7800x3d has more cores that are linked to these large cache reserves compared to a ryzen 9. 50 Ghz) RAM: 64GB (Downclocked to 2933Mhz) VIDEO CARD: GTX 1070 for whatever it is OBS needs a GPU for. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. 20 cores at 60 W compared to 64 cores at 280 W. The problems will arise if you start to do heavy multicore processing with it and for prolonged periods of time. Ryzen 5 1600/1600X vs Core i5/ i7/ Ryzen 7 Gaming Benchmarks Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Radeon, Zen4, RDNA3, EPYC, Threadripper, rumors, reviews, news and more. 5950x over TR any day of the week if gaming is involved. Is that a good idea or should I just go for the 3960X Threadripper now or should I wait for the new ones to release so the then older gen gets cheaper? Market name: Ryzen 9000. If you're going to stream, edit video, or do any sort of multicore workload, then get a Threadripper. See this video for more info. 3950x would most likely beat 2950x, especially when oc-d, but TR4 might be a better longer-term solution. I gotta say, been showing my friends Ryzen, all of them are pretty die hard Intel fans. Opt for a Ryzen 3000 series since the core count is so high these days and focus on maxing our single threaded performance? I’d need to stick with 64gb of RAM. H = H = High Performance laptop CPU. It is more expensive when you account for the cost of the motherboard. Each CCD has 8 cores and shares 32MB L3 cache. Intel would be a hell of a lot more competitive if they had 10nm up to snuff. With all the new, amazing AMD announcements over the last month I’m struggling to weigh the pros and cons of a going with one (Threadripper 3960x) or the other (Ryzen 9 5950x) alongside the new RX 6900 XT. I noticed that this block removes heat a lot quicker from the CPU. Otherwise save $1300 and get a 3950x, or even a 9900ks. However, there are some key differences between the two processors that may make one a better choice for your specific needs. All resolutions, from 21:9 to 32:9, are celebrated here. bnxxtspfgbpueczwgyae